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i say good job. >> that's it for us on "the five." thanks for watching. see you back here tomorrow. "special report" with bret baier is next. the u.s. readies its case against syria and for military action. this is "special report." good evening, i'm bret baier. american war ships in the mediterranean are on high alert as they are prepared to punish a regime that dared to use chemical weapons against its own people, according to administration officials. one senior defense official telling fox news it is not a matter of if the u.s. will take military action against syria but when. meantime, we're waiting for the obama administration to release
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intelligence backing its claims. we have fox team coverage tonight. fox news military analyst, jennifer griffin at the pentagon, what we know about possible tactics. we begin with chief white house correspondent ed henry on where things stand now. good evening, ed. >> reporter: good evening, bret. at this hour, the president is huddled in meetings whether to inch closer to military action, amid questions whether he will do something he railed against in 2008, acting unilaterally. as syrian officials -- biden joined the officials saying action is imminent. >> national security is strengthened. we will hold accountable those who violate international norms. >> reporter: two years ago this month president obama called for syrian president bashar al-assad to go. today, white house officials declared the objective of any
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possible military action would not be to drive the dictator from power. >> the options are not about regime change, they're about responding to a clear violation of an international standard that prohibits the use of chemical weapons. >> reporter: leaving republicans to demand what exactly the mission would be. >> i certainly hope the reaction isn't simply lobby some cruise missiles in to disagree with assad's murderous actions. >> reporter: the president ran for office, railing against what he called unilateralism by the bush team in iraq and elsewhere. when boston globe gave candidates written questions, they asked about bombing iran without authorization from congress. senator obama said the president doesn't have power under the constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. >> the standard in 2007 to candidate obama was an actual or
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imminent threat to the nation. do you believe that exists now? >> i believe that absolutely allowing the use of chemical weapons on a significant scale to take place without a response would present a significant challenge, threat to the united states national security interests. >> reporter: some democrats are not so sure. senator chris murphy declaring absent imminent threat to america's national security, the u.s. shouldn't take military action without congressional authorization. barbara lee, the only to vote against war in afghanistan, said congress needs to have a full debate before the united states commits to any military force in syria or elsewhere. a fox news poll in may before the large scale chemical attack found 68% of americans felt the u.s. should not be more involved in syria. 23% wanted a bigger u.s. role.
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>> what replaces assad might not be better or at least may not be better for the united states. again, u.s. military action should at some level advance u.s. security interests. >> reporter: tonight, republican scott ridge ellis calling for debate on this action in syria. i am told the president has no plans to call such session. officials note that officials in the white house have been calling lawmakers in both parties and the president has been reaching out to key allies in europe to build a coalition. bret? >> ed henry on the north lawn, thank you. we are learning more about the kinds of tactics the u.s. may use in what is described as a limited campaign against syria. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has details from the pentagon. >> reporter: a senior u.s. defense official tells fox that any strike on syria is likely to last hours, not days. defense secretary chuck hagel spoke to his british and french counterparts by phone today. >> let's get the facts, let's
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get the intelligence, and then a decision will be made on whether action should be taken, if action should be taken, what action, or no action. >> if you were to come, you're ready to go like that. >> ready to go like that. >> reporter: according to military officials, there are no plans in the initial mission to go after assad's chemical weapons. in fact, it is not even possible experts say to use air strikes to carry out surgical strikes on chemical weapons storage facilities, without releasing the chemicals into the air, potentially causing more mass casualties. assad is estimated to have 1,000 tons of those materials. any plans to secure assad's chemical weapons would require special operations and boots on the ground, which is not on the table right now. the u.s. is planning a limited strike, pentagon sources say. four u.s. navy destroyers are in position and at least one nuclear powered submarine.
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a british sub is also available if parliament approves it in a vote slated for thursday. >> what we are looking at is shock and awe, crews miscellaneous i will, some sea delivered and air delivered platforms. >> reporter: the problem with tomorrahawk tomahawks, they don't always deliver the same effect. >> mostly it is just that we don't get the result we hoped for. the leader of the country, bad guy that that leader may be, doesn't give up, so it leads to wider war. >> reporter: nato called an emergency meeting in brussels wednesday. no decision to strike is likely to be made before then. bret? >> jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. let's look at the reason for a move. jack keene is currently chairman of the ins tult for the study of
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war. thanks for being here. >> good to be here, bret. >> first of all, we haven't seen the intelligence laid out from the administration as of yet. is there any doubt knowing what you know about syria, knowing what you know about assad that the chemical weapons were used by him and not by the rebels to somehow spur some action by the u.s. >> no doubt in my mind. rebels moved into east damascus three weeks ago, assad pounded them with military, mortars, he couldn't dislodge them. they received a weapons shipment a number of days prior to use of chemical weapons. he went after them with next weapon to be success. knowing how important damascus is to him and the center of the campai campaign. his calculation is that we would one, not respond, because we have not to date, or number two, if we did, it would be minimal and it would not hurt his
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military capability. >> you think there's a risk in responding just for punishment strike as opposed to some strategic tactical maneuver that takes out assad and his capabilities. >> absolutely. listen, we cannot topple the regime using standoff weapons, i am not suggesting that. a strategic view of this, what are we trying to accomplish here. one goal is to topple the regime, a stated goal of the administration, provide arms to the rebels, lethal arms they desperately need, more than small arms, and number two, go after a significant military capability. the most vulnerable military capability he has is his air power. 20 air fields, only 6 are primary. he only has about 100 aircraft. we can take down the air fields, the aircraft on them. also, the munitions, fuel, warehouses that the iranians and
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ru russians use to resupply, we can do that. that's something he is not bargaining for. he doesn't expect to lose air power over use of chemical weapons. >> there are have you few that know the military that believe the administration will do that. do you believe they would go that far? >> i would hope they would. my judgment is they probably would not. they have a tendency to look at the minimal amount of risk involved. frankly, what it would take to do what i just suggested can be done in a couple nights, and doesn't take that much more than scattering cruise missiles around the country at other targets that may not be as significant. the impact, bret, i know from my contacts with the opposition forces, they have high expectation, this is the first time anybody has done anything to help them. if all we do is something symbolic, they'll be devastated by it. >> there are critics as you imagine to any potential action. listen to colonel peters today
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on fox. >> this is about president obama shooting off his mouth about red lines, painting himself in a corner. now he wants to restore his credibility. you have to plan for what comes next. suppose the president decided on serious military strikes that really weakened the assad regime. the assad regime collapses. you have al qaeda, the news reel folks, islamist extremists, grab the city of damascus. one of the most important cities to the arab world. then what does the president do? i don't see any strategic interest of the united states in syria whatsoever. >> your reaction to that? >> the facts don't support what colonel peters is saying. that's in northern syria, consolidating what they're doing, not much involved in the fighting any more. they're involved in imposing radical islam on the people. the people are demonstrating against them on a daily basis. the fact of the matter is the
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monitors are geographically separated from radicals. we can provide arms to the radicals. >> the moderates? >> arms to the moderates, absolutely, strengthen their hand considerably. we can't guarantee an outcome post assad. >> what's the end game, let's say you do what you said, what's the end game here? what's the strategic interest of the u.s.? >> the strategic interest of the u.s. is a stable regime in syria, friendly to the united states as a buffer against the iranians. the strategic objective here should always be the interest of iran and what it portends for that region. they use syria, iraq, they're here in syria in a place like no place else since they came to power in 1979. >> you look at polls, quinnipiac had a pole this summer, is it in the national interest of the
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united states to be involved in conflict in syria, yes, 27%, no, 61%. if you look at prior military actions and the list is long, this would be the most disapproval potentially for any military action, as you look at the list, prior u.s. military actions, libya, iraq, kosovo, haiti, somalia, iraq, libya, grenada, this is potentially the most disapproval in public opinion prior to any military action. >> i don't believe a president of the united states, commander in chief, acting in national interest of the united states does that on a basis of polls. all that said, it is valuable, what you inform us about. i believe the reason those polls exist the way they do, a huge amount of misinformation about what's going on with the chaos among the rebels, there will be no stable outcome, colonel peters', comments, a lot of
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people hold those comments. >> do you think it happens sooner rather than later? >> oh, yeah. >> good seeing you. up next, consumer confidence or lack of it, what it means to you. here is what some of the fox affiliates are covering. wzdx in huntsville, alabama, a major bust of a massive multi state dog fighting ring. federal officials arrested ten suspects there, and rescued more than 360 dogs. wtic, fox 61 in connecticut, first day of a new school year for newtown students, nine months after the school shootings there that killed 26 people. this is a live look at philadelphia from wtsf. the big story there, return home of sarah murnaghan after two double lung transplants, after a federal judge intervened in her parents' lawsuit, challenging transplant rules. that put ten-year-old sarah at the end of the waiting list
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so get allstate home insurance with claim rate guard... [ whispering ] goodnight. there are so many people in our bedroom. [ dennis ] talk to an allstate agent... [ doorbell rings ] ...and let the good life in. home prices rose over 12% in june from a year earlier. that nearly matches a seven year high. month to month growth slowed in most markets, possibly due to higher mortgage rates. talk of war weighed heavily on wall street. dow lost 170, s&p 500 down 26, nasdaq dropped 79. consumer confidence is up slightly. we tell you every once in a while that it is up or down. but what does it mean in the real world? correspondent doug mcelway has some context. >> the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. >> reporter: when president
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franklin roosevelt spoke those words in 1933, it was a throw to call off doubts of the great depression. the release of today's consumer confidence index may serve similar purpose to throw off doubts of the recession. it finds consumer confidence which stood at 81 in july rose >> i think it is relatively positive news. this is the third month in a row with a reading above 80. >> reporter: experts differ over whether this heralds a recovery. it lacks data like monthly unemployment numbers. it gauges confidence in things like average weekly hours in manufacturing, claims for unemployment insurance, new manufacturing orders, building permits, private housing units, and stock prices. >> it is definitely a factor, a barometer. the index will take a downward hit that will take many more months on the up side. >> reporter: the conference board says they track closely with unemployment data. >> this is a survey of consumers
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by consumers and they have a relatively great track record in predicting the health of the economy. >> reporter: pessimist particular indicator of the survey, they believe when conditions are good, decleesed from 18.4% from 20.8% a month ago. it will be another month in the recovery. gridlock in washington over the debt ceiling may slow it. bret? >> doug, thank you. up next, president obama does a political 180 on lobbyists. we'll explain. later, sales job or snow job. marketing obama care at your expense. what's this? uhh, it's my geico insurance id card, sir. it's digital, uh, pretty cool right? maybe. you know why i pulled you over today? because i'm a pig driving a convertible?
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closing arguments are set for the fort hood kortd martial. major nidal malik hasan decided not to speak to the jury today. he admitted to killing 13, wounding more than 30 at the texas base. he will get either life or death sentence. outgoing homeland security secretary janet napolitano says she's confident she helped the agency prevent attacks and respond to disasters. she made her farewell speech at the press club. napolitano leaves next week to take over as president of the california university system. facebook says government agents in 74 countries demanded information on 38,000 facebook users in the first half of the year. the company says half the orders came from authorities inside the
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united states. facebook says it turned over data in response to 60% of the questions. facebook joins microsoft and google in releasing figures on how often governments seek information about their customers. what a difference a few years make. barack obama won the white house by promising to keep his distance from lobbyists. chief washington correspondent james rosen shows us tonight time has brought them much closer together. >> well, we can go ahead and tell the lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in washington are over, they haven't funded my campaign, won't run my white house. >> reporter: from the earliest moments on the stage, he portrayed lobbyists, den sons that represent corporate and other clients to shape regulation have an evil presence that would be exorcised from the obama administration and from the sphere of public policy.
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>> transparent administration. >> reporter: ethics watch dogs disagree. >> i would say the obama administration relationship with lobbyists is the same as every administration's relationship with lobbyists. this is the thing that makes people so skeptical about politicians and washington. anybody can look and see it is the same as it always is, which is no better or worse than it was under president bush or president clinton. >> reporter: attorney general eric holder, vilsack, and wheeler who is heading the fcc were all lobbyists in the last decade, with wheeler, having been the telecommunications industry chief lobbyist. >> he hasn't worked for the wireless industry in a decade, nearly a decade, and his representation for the cable industry is nearly three decades old. >> reporter: the center for responsive politics lists close to 400 people in the obama administration who have been
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through the so-called revolving door, close to 15 are registered lobbyists, a percentage lower than his predecessor, hardly low enough to count as exorcism. >> obama administration hasn't employed as many current and former lobbyists as george w. bush's administration did in two terms. since he promised it was going to be less, his numbers are high enough, the percentage of lobbyists he is engaged with in his administration has employed is high enough it is a broken promise. >> reporter: by most accounts, obama care and dodd-frank overhaul of the financial services industry, two laws signed by president obama that are massive, complex, augmented by thousands of pages of regulation only enhance the role and value of lobbyists in the capital. >> thank you. was this country founded by extremists? that's what some in the military are being taught now. and an update on the federal worker who operates a website advocating a race war. the grapevine is next. [ male announcer ] running out of steam?
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criticizes whites, gays, those of mixed race, blacks that integrate with whites. his government job? he buys weapons and ammunition for immigration and customs enforcement. i.c.e. doesn't condone hateful rhetoric or advocacy of violence. most people know alger hicks as a communist spy. 75 years later, seems msnbc host karen finney is unwilling to acknowledge it as a fact. former head of communications for dnc and press secretary for hillary clinton hung up on conservative talk show host hugh hewitt after he tried to get her to say hicks was a communist. finney later claimed she answered hewitt and said the host was only interested in a shout fest. worth noting, msnbc host chris matthews said in the past he is astonished anyone could view him
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as anything less than guilty. finally, the founding fathers were extremists. that's what 3200 soldiers from all branches of military have been taught this week in a 12 week course for service members trained to spot discrimination on military bases. the daily mail reports the training manual says, quote, in u.s. history there are many examples of extremist i did ee obviously gees and movements, con niss who sought to free themselves from british rule and the confederate states who sought to see seed from northern states are just two examples. nowadays, instead of dressing in sheets or publicly espouse are hate messages, many extremists will talk of individual liberties, states rights and how to make the world a better place. training material on extremism is intentionally written to generate provocative discussion
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and is not necessarily consistent with dod policy, shouldn't be interpreted in any way other than the intended purpose which is to prepare human relations practitioners for their occupational duties. it is shaping up to be one of the great sales jobs in history. but many congressional critics say it is more like a snow job. william la january he is looks at expensive efforts to sell obama care to a skeptical public. >> reporter: a video contest, celebrities, pro athletes, the obama administration is asking everyone from oprah to comedian amy poehler to do one thing it hasn't, sell america on obama care. >> at the health insurance marketplace. >> reporter: the government will spend 680 million to pedal the law, some for advertising to sign up young and healthy, other grants for education and outreach. almost 300,000 went to tucson's health center. >> what they'll be doing,
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educating people about options with the affordable care act, but also encouraging people to see what kind of insurance they qualify for. >> reporter: they wonder how the law will negatively impact them. >> the place obama care is taking you, is it a done deal? >> if you're under 65 -- >> is it better if you're younger. >> reporter: this event, sponsored by the conservative group americans for prosperity involved no public money. >> you want to be very, very careful in the medicare age group. >> reporter: older folks worry what they will lose, but it is what the poor stand to gain that energizes the effort. >> we will educate and help through the process. >> reporter: critics consider it a one sided pr campaign. >> it is a little disturbing the government is spending taxpayer money to go out and sign people up for a government program of dubious quality. >> reporter: the success of
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obama care depends on signing up three million healthy uninsured 18 to 34-year-olds. their enrollment designed to offset the cost of insuring older, more expensive adults. the idea that ads in cosmopolitan may make it popular but expect more spin than substance. the u.s. on the brink of war overse syria's use of chemical weapons. we'll talk about it with the fox all stars when we come back. i'm. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. i knew that i could smoke for the first 7 days. i knew that i wasn't putting nicotine back into my body to try to quit. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems,
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there's no doubt who is responsible for this heinous use of chemical weapons in syria. the syrian regime. >> the options we are considering are not about regime change, they're about responding to a clear violation of international standard that
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prohibits use of chemical weapons. >> the question is will those attacks be retaliation, and bashar goes on as normal, or will the attacks degrade his capabilities, particularly air capabilities? >> there's not much doubt in washington that the administration, the president, is going to do something, launch some kind of attack against syria in response to chemical weapons use by what the administration says was the bashar al-assad regime. there is some push back from members of congress, including the house foreign affairs committee chairman ed royce who released this statement minutes ago, he called the syrian use of chemical weapons beyond the pale. said any u.s. military action could bring serious consequences or further escalation. the president should be making the case to the american people and his administration should come to congress to explain their plans. the consequences are too great for congress to be brushed aside. with that, let's bring in the
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panel. chuck, thoughts on how this is coming together. >> well, i think there's a couple things occur to me off that last piece. the really strong rhetoric so far when you talk about making a case to the american public has not come out of the president's own mouth so far, it has been joe biden in the clip we saw and before that, john kerry talking about how morally obscene this was. the president himself, his last comments were very equivocal last week in that interview with chris cuomo. even now i see him kind of holding back, reserving his options. but this is snowballing quickly and the president is about to act, not just because of syria, he's worried about iran, he has to be worried about iran in the sense that whatever he does to defend the red line he laid down
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months ago is going to be closely watched by iran, has its own nuclear weapons program, a new president that's been making overtures about negotiation. >> the audience is bigger than assad and syria if you take military action. the audience i iran, north korea, it is potential users of wmd. this is a key moment for the president. i think there are calls now from congress as we saw that they want some form of consultation, possibly even a vote. i think it would be in the president's self interest to go down that road, to get some kind of congressional consultation or signoff on this. chairman royce put his finger on it when he said there's potential unintended consequences, no matter what you do, even if you took the route of degrading assad's military capability, even if you took it, made a clear path for the rebels to take over, how do you know the rebels that we want will be
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the ones to take over. how do you know that assad won't, for example, retaliate by striki striking israel. how do you know that they don't make a bigger project out of this. you want congress, key members of congress having your back as you go down a road filled with unintended consequences. >> call congress back in? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> charles? >> it is precisely because of all of those unknowns that if you're going to cross the line, you're going to cross the rubicon and enter into the war by killing people, by launching cruise missiles as the administration is clearly about to do, that it do something, not just as an expression of outrage of the kind of show of obama's conscience, if you're going to cross the line, with all of the possible consequences you outlined, which could be serious, then have a strategic
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effect. we don't hear that. we heard carney say it isn't about regime change. then it is a pointless exercise. if it is going to be an attack, what it should be aimed as as general keane was explaining, having the effect of weakening the regime, stopping assad who is now winning this war, and giving the rebels a chance of winning the war or weakening assad. imagine the effect on the rebels who have been abandoned. nobody helped them 'til now. the word from washington loud and clear is the americans are going to act. this is a country that took down the taliban in 100 days, took down saddam in iraq who had been in power 30 years. took him down in three weeks. we have the capacity to take away the air assets of this regime, if we are going to have an attack, it should be aimed at that. if it is not, we shouldn't be doing anything. >> here is what john mccain on this very point has said today.
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>> bashar assad felt he needed to use these weapons, but he used them before. the president said there was a red line, he interpreted it as a green light. we will see what action we take. if we simply launch cruise missiles, do it for three days, not have significant effect on the momentum on the battlefield, it will have an unhelpful effect. >> there are many others, chuck, that say listen, once you're in, you're in. i mean, you own it. it is the colin powell doctrine, in the wake of iraq and other decisions, if you're going all in, you're going all in. >> that's why i think the president is tempted not to go all in. i think he is tempted, and reports are getting that he is likely to do something that amounts to a punitive strike.
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to punish for use of chemical weapons. >> that would be potentially the worst of all options. >> again, it depends what damage it actually does and so forth. but it seems like, repeat it seems like from the signals they have in mind a punitive strike, sends a message we strongly disapprove of what you've done. and there are precedents for that. we've seen it during the clinton administration in iraq, cruise missile strikes on sudan, retaliation for alleged involvement in terrorism. >> all had no effect and had the opposite message of america being unserious in every case. when we did the cruise missile attack in '98 under the clinton administration after the bombing of our embassies, osama bin laden concluded america was unserious with the course.
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three years later, we had 9/11. >> you have to ask the question, is limited punitive strike worse than doing nothing. i am not sure that's true. >> then there's the libya example, they sent in 110 tomahawk missiles, british and u.s. war ships, then there was a nato enforced fly zone for six months, which ended with a civil war with gadhafi being deposed. the problem with syria is more complicated because the rebel situation is more complicated. and you've got the potentially unsecure wmd of chemicals. >> we're going to continue this. final word on this topic? >> i think it is a question of are you serious or not. assad will understand it is a punitive strike, he emerges from the smoke essentially unhurt strategically, he wins this round. and it will have been for nothing and risking all of the things that nina talked about
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. >> i don't know a single person in our military. not one who thinks attacking syria is remotely a good idea or will have any positive benefit for our national security. this is about president obama shooting off his mouth about red lines, painting himself into a corner. now he wants it to restore his credibility. well, how much danger to the united states is it worth to try to restore the president's credibility?
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>> bret: there hasn't been a lot of public push back about there potential launch of cruise missiles that could be just days away. there has been a little. not a lot. here is representative barbara lee her facebook book statement while the use of chemical weapons is deeply troubling and unacceptable. congress needs to have a full house debate before the commits military force in syria or elsewhere. nina, are you prized by the lack of vocal opposition to some action in the middle east despite polls that are upside down about this issue. >> the polls are upside down and this has happened quickly, this whole episode has happened quickly. >> well, not really. the president said the red line a year and seven days ago. >> but this current episode this current chemical attack has happened quickly and unfolded quickly. i think that this president has to have upper most in his mind the fact as you pointed out earl earlier in
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the show the lowest public support for intervention that there has ever been in modern history on are a wavment there is higher support, 49%, 47% for the action in libya. so, he is clearly trying to take an action that won't involve in any way troops on the ground. but what would involve troops on the ground, anything like even securing the chemical installations if you attack those and try to take those over o. you need booze on the ground. if you even if you are going to make sure that there is a fall of assad, to some extent you are probably going to need boots on the ground. >> bret: which this administration is saying is not going to happen. >> is not going to happen. i think he is trying to thread that needle. >> you are right about the polls let's put the up the list again. approval was 76% for the operation in iraq. disapproved 20%. and you look at the rest of that list, as you continue to go down in the years.
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really the closest was libya at 47%. and you look at the rest, iraq the first time around was even less than the second time around, chuck. and, yet, you look at this, and it's pretty clear there is no appetite in the country for doing. this i would like to see a poll taken after the gas attack to have a fair comparison. that's obviously the reason the president is giving for thinking about going. in but, you know, all this raises to me a very interesting possibility. if i were the russians and the iranians and the syrian government thinking about how to get out of this mess, i would propose some gesture. some peace conference. some offer of conciliation or talks or negotiated solution. i would just sort of throw that into the mix right now. because what better way to mobilize or give the people who are -- have second thoughts and misgivings about this something to hang on. and certainly it would give the president, you know, if
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he is looking for one, some sort of concession that he can point to, some way out to say he got some results without having to fire a shot. >> bret: here is senator ted cruz on hannity last night. well, no, he is not there but i will tell you what he said. u.s. national security interests is the touch stone that the president should be explaining and the united states armed forces doesn't exist to be policemen for the world. charles, you may hear more of that in coming days. >> i think there has to be a debate on whether this is in the strategic interest of the united states. it shouldn't be a moral spasm as a reaction to chemical weapons attack. that's not why you go war. you go to war if it will be posh important for our security ultimately. either it is or it isn't. the reason the support for the war is low is because americans hate war, rightly so and don't like wars, especially way on the other end of the world which is where all our wars are.
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unless there is a president who will make a case, fdr in the second world war, george bush sr. in the gulf war to make a case for why americans are going to say no obviously. and obama not said a word about syria. this didn't spring up on us yesterday. the war started three years ago. obama said two years ago he said assad has to go. he did nothing. he never made the case. he never argued. he never gave a speech. and now it was -- with six months ago that we had the first chemical attack, it was a year ago he drew the red line. so he makes all these statements. he does nothing. i'm not talking about on the ground but retorquely, so why would americans support him which is why he should have a debate in congress. >> bret: i have got to go quickly but british parliament is debating this whether to intervene tomorrow morning. >> exactly. it's a shame that the prime minister of england convenes its parliament so
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he can get support. and the american president ignores his congress and acts unilaterally. >> bret: that is it for the panel. stay tuned for a group of protesters that just wants to be heard.
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>> bret: finally tonight, here in washington, we are used to lawmakers, administration types, all kinds of people trying to organize other people. sometimes they really just want to hear themselves, other times they want feedback from a group, one kind or another. well, in new zealand, one certain group did have that cohesion. they just needed a little bit of leadership. >> what do you want? [sheep] >> when do you want it? [nah] >> how do you want it?
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[ laughter ] who is your daddy? >> bret: captive audience. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. bing pulse tomorrow night. not friday. >> the president retains all options available to him. the pentagon says it's ready to go. whenever president obama gives the order. but syria warns it will strike back with everything it's got. plus,. >> shot my baby. >> bill: the mother who says she watched the gunman shoot her baby in the face takes the stand. >> i put my arms over my baby but he still shot him. >> bill: ahead, the emotional day in court.

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